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		<title>By: Latest News at UNSCleric.com &#187; The Day Xbox Live Went Away</title>
		<link>http://www.unscleric.com/news/?p=178#comment-1996</link>
		<dc:creator>Latest News at UNSCleric.com &#187; The Day Xbox Live Went Away</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] No, it&#8217;s not a new Nine Inch Nails song, or the death of Net Neutrality, it&#8217;s just a day of Xbox Live upgrades/maintenance.&#160; In case anybody forgot, Xbox Live will continue to be down for just over another 12 hours.&#160; That is also the reason why there&#8217;s a weird image to your right where my Gamercard usually is. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] No, it&#8217;s not a new Nine Inch Nails song, or the death of Net Neutrality, it&#8217;s just a day of Xbox Live upgrades/maintenance.&nbsp; In case anybody forgot, Xbox Live will continue to be down for just over another 12 hours.&nbsp; That is also the reason why there&#8217;s a weird image to your right where my Gamercard usually is. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: xBeerCityBearx</title>
		<link>http://www.unscleric.com/news/?p=178#comment-232</link>
		<dc:creator>xBeerCityBearx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again,

"Were from the Goverment &#38; we're here to help you. Now bend over...."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again,</p>
<p>&#8220;Were from the Goverment &amp; we&#8217;re here to help you. Now bend over&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DavidGX</title>
		<link>http://www.unscleric.com/news/?p=178#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidGX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 12:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't mean to imply that it was owned by America but that it was created by America. I don't think the internet should be "owned" by anyone. That's part of the freedom of the internet that makes it so great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that it was owned by America but that it was created by America. I don&#8217;t think the internet should be &#8220;owned&#8221; by anyone. That&#8217;s part of the freedom of the internet that makes it so great.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://www.unscleric.com/news/?p=178#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only comment I have to make on the subject is simply that America does not own the internet. No one country does. It is a colective of information etc. from many contries. All with different laws. If the law makers in the US decide that will stop Net-Neutrality then their laws can only possibly apply in the US and to web sites/service providers in the US. All it seems to me that this could end up doing is creating a "US Internet/s" and a "Rest of the World Internet". Speaking as a person from a non-US country it seems to defeat the whole purpose of having an internet in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only comment I have to make on the subject is simply that America does not own the internet. No one country does. It is a colective of information etc. from many contries. All with different laws. If the law makers in the US decide that will stop Net-Neutrality then their laws can only possibly apply in the US and to web sites/service providers in the US. All it seems to me that this could end up doing is creating a &#8220;US Internet/s&#8221; and a &#8220;Rest of the World Internet&#8221;. Speaking as a person from a non-US country it seems to defeat the whole purpose of having an internet in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidGX</title>
		<link>http://www.unscleric.com/news/?p=178#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidGX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 16:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah it's quite pathetic to see people get up on stage in front of flags and go "FREEDOM! Freedom freedom freedom? FREEDOM FREEDOM! FREEEEDDOOOM..vote for me" and then pull stuff like this. 

The internet was invented by America, and I think it represents some of the best of America. Both in freedom and technology/innovation. To now try and ruin that is a complete disgrace. It goes against everything this country is supposed to stand for.

I think people across the entire political spectrum would agree that a few big corporations controlling the internet is a very, very bad thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah it&#8217;s quite pathetic to see people get up on stage in front of flags and go &#8220;FREEDOM! Freedom freedom freedom? FREEDOM FREEDOM! FREEEEDDOOOM..vote for me&#8221; and then pull stuff like this. </p>
<p>The internet was invented by America, and I think it represents some of the best of America. Both in freedom and technology/innovation. To now try and ruin that is a complete disgrace. It goes against everything this country is supposed to stand for.</p>
<p>I think people across the entire political spectrum would agree that a few big corporations controlling the internet is a very, very bad thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike (Twisted)</title>
		<link>http://www.unscleric.com/news/?p=178#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike (Twisted)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 18:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David's right. This country is going down the crapper pretty quickly. First a war based on lies and now our freedom is being stripped from us. This is quite ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David&#8217;s right. This country is going down the crapper pretty quickly. First a war based on lies and now our freedom is being stripped from us. This is quite ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidGX</title>
		<link>http://www.unscleric.com/news/?p=178#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidGX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 02:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sent emails/letters and the like. I hope others will do the same. It's very sad that in a country like America, that claims to value freedom above all-else, we'd try something like this.

Oh well off to make some illegally wire-tapped phonecalls and wait for my house to be raided because I said the president was a douche-bag on AT&#38;Tnet...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sent emails/letters and the like. I hope others will do the same. It&#8217;s very sad that in a country like America, that claims to value freedom above all-else, we&#8217;d try something like this.</p>
<p>Oh well off to make some illegally wire-tapped phonecalls and wait for my house to be raided because I said the president was a douche-bag on AT&amp;Tnet&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Caleb</title>
		<link>http://www.unscleric.com/news/?p=178#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>Caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 13:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>too-shay...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>too-shay&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Administrator</title>
		<link>http://www.unscleric.com/news/?p=178#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>Administrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 11:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment Michael, very well put, I wish I had the time right now to critically look at every single peice of information regarding this so that I could fully respond, but I want to ask one thing that should make sense if I have all my thoughts straight.

If Net Neutrality is taken down, from what you say, it would just create a more "Premium" internet for those who value that kind of thing, like first class on a plane, but with planes and all that, they still have other rules to abide by (ex. they can't stuff the other people in the cargo for example).  It seems like Net Neutrality is the only rule on the Internet right now, if we take it down, what's to stop AT&#038;T and Comcast from doing ANYTHING they want with their bandwidth and prices?

I already know from personal experience that Comcast will absolutely kill you with their prices in areas they have no competition, but in other parts of the country, they will do anything to keep you as a customer, and slash their prices in half.  I'm sure almost everyone has had billing problems with any ISP or phone provider (like Comcast and AT&#038;T, etc.) and I just worry about giving these companies, who have shown they care about money, and nothing but it (as they should I suppose), absolute power over the internet, it's just asking to get exploited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment Michael, very well put, I wish I had the time right now to critically look at every single peice of information regarding this so that I could fully respond, but I want to ask one thing that should make sense if I have all my thoughts straight.</p>
<p>If Net Neutrality is taken down, from what you say, it would just create a more &#8220;Premium&#8221; internet for those who value that kind of thing, like first class on a plane, but with planes and all that, they still have other rules to abide by (ex. they can&#8217;t stuff the other people in the cargo for example).  It seems like Net Neutrality is the only rule on the Internet right now, if we take it down, what&#8217;s to stop AT&#038;T and Comcast from doing ANYTHING they want with their bandwidth and prices?</p>
<p>I already know from personal experience that Comcast will absolutely kill you with their prices in areas they have no competition, but in other parts of the country, they will do anything to keep you as a customer, and slash their prices in half.  I&#8217;m sure almost everyone has had billing problems with any ISP or phone provider (like Comcast and AT&#038;T, etc.) and I just worry about giving these companies, who have shown they care about money, and nothing but it (as they should I suppose), absolute power over the internet, it&#8217;s just asking to get exploited.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Greer</title>
		<link>http://www.unscleric.com/news/?p=178#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Greer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 06:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are more than a few errors in this blog entry.  Let me put this whole "net neutrality' thing another way:

What if you could be sure that:
1. When using Skype or Vonage, you would almost never have any audio problems, and you always came through loud and clear to the person you are talking to and vice versa.
2. When playing Halo, you would almost never have any lag issues or server disconnects.
3. What if your favorite websites, instead of taking 8 seconds to load, loaded in 4 secs?
4. What if you could download a full movie in 20 minutes instead of 2 hours?

To get all these features, you would simply pay your ISP an additional $5 a month. Would that service interest you?
I bet most people would be interested.

Now, let me ask another question. What if your neighbor, who has 4 kids, works 2 jobs, and has his mother-in-law living with him, cannot afford this luxury? Would you call that unfair and ban this $5 service?

In capitalism, as in life, sometimes things are not fair, or not as fair as we would like.  Wanna try another form of economics? Communism, socialism? These usually do not work out too well, but some people would say they are more "fair."

Would you rather live in a country where:
1. Some people have almost nothing, a lot of people have quite a few things, and a few people can have anything.
2. A lot of people have little, and some people have a lot.

This is WAY oversimplified, but according to history, and even now, this is how things turn out.

When looking at these arguments, also realize that "free speech" really has nothing to do with it.  Under a system of NON-net neutrality, you would NOT be blocked from going to any site.

Example:
First-class passengers on a plane get to board first, get better food, better seats, and generally more amenities. But, EVERYONE GETS TO FLY.

Capitalism = Pay more, get more.

Thanks for listening,

Michael Greer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are more than a few errors in this blog entry.  Let me put this whole &#8220;net neutrality&#8217; thing another way:</p>
<p>What if you could be sure that:<br />
1. When using Skype or Vonage, you would almost never have any audio problems, and you always came through loud and clear to the person you are talking to and vice versa.<br />
2. When playing Halo, you would almost never have any lag issues or server disconnects.<br />
3. What if your favorite websites, instead of taking 8 seconds to load, loaded in 4 secs?<br />
4. What if you could download a full movie in 20 minutes instead of 2 hours?</p>
<p>To get all these features, you would simply pay your ISP an additional $5 a month. Would that service interest you?<br />
I bet most people would be interested.</p>
<p>Now, let me ask another question. What if your neighbor, who has 4 kids, works 2 jobs, and has his mother-in-law living with him, cannot afford this luxury? Would you call that unfair and ban this $5 service?</p>
<p>In capitalism, as in life, sometimes things are not fair, or not as fair as we would like.  Wanna try another form of economics? Communism, socialism? These usually do not work out too well, but some people would say they are more &#8220;fair.&#8221;</p>
<p>Would you rather live in a country where:<br />
1. Some people have almost nothing, a lot of people have quite a few things, and a few people can have anything.<br />
2. A lot of people have little, and some people have a lot.</p>
<p>This is WAY oversimplified, but according to history, and even now, this is how things turn out.</p>
<p>When looking at these arguments, also realize that &#8220;free speech&#8221; really has nothing to do with it.  Under a system of NON-net neutrality, you would NOT be blocked from going to any site.</p>
<p>Example:<br />
First-class passengers on a plane get to board first, get better food, better seats, and generally more amenities. But, EVERYONE GETS TO FLY.</p>
<p>Capitalism = Pay more, get more.</p>
<p>Thanks for listening,</p>
<p>Michael Greer</p>
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